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Good code editors without AI?
Hi. I can't stand AI, and most code editors are now built with AI installed or integrated into them. Are there any good non-AI code editors out there? A few I already know of are Pulsar, Notepad++ (not a fan), Cudatext, Geany, etc. Added bonus if they have…
Hi. I can't stand AI, and most code editors are now built with AI installed or integrated into them. Are there any good non-AI code editors out there? A few I already know of are Pulsar, Notepad++ (not a fan), Cudatext, Geany, etc. Added bonus if they have live preview either built in or an extension that installs live preview.
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Could you just not use those features in VS Code?
I use VSCodium, which is the same but without Microsoft telemetry and all that. I think I have the AI disabled in VSCodium.
So you have the answer XD. VSCodium. If you still see AI search chat.disableAiFeatures in settings (may have typo)
this sequence of words is getting way too boring already
I use it for GoLang projects. It is very barebone IDE but at least you are focused on code and there is no distraction.
Seeing as VS Codium version 1.26.0 came out 2 years before Anthropic existed, that would be impressive for them to develop an LLM, name it Claude, and then do that in 2018. Also,not everyone needs to rely on telemetry, like at. I don't need Microsoft to know my data for projects irrelevant to them. I don't think that dude knows what telemetry means, holy shit
Yes, but then they don't get to flex on the internet.
Most IDEs I use has the option to disable those features, so I’m not understanding the issue here.
Jus answer the damn question op asked 🥀 he has already heard alot of that stuff. Op knows what he's asking for
I'm just going to say as a SWE, you are going to get left behind if your intention is to not use AI at all.
Real developers choose their code editor based on what they want and need, not what they don't. Visual Studio Code has an AI toggle switch. Use that. VSCodium is also an option, if you like pain and misery. It lacks marketplace integration and disables telemetry! As a developer, you should integrate telemetry into your apps and rely on its results to fix pain points and improve the app. Clearly, whoever made VSCodium was no developer. They probably opened Claude AI and wrote, "please compile VSCode after removing telemetry endpoints."
I think Sublime Text still holds up well sometimes.
most code editors have ai bloat i agree, but u can just disable them (for now at least hah)
Honestly, I had the same problem. Sometimes I just want to open a log file or a big JSON response. But VS Code takes time to open and I don’t need a full IDE for that. So I ended up building a small app called Grayslate. It is not a replacement for an IDE. I use it more for logs, JSON, CSV, SQL queries, email drafts, prompts and quick code snippets. GitHub: https://github.com/shriram-ethiraj/grayslate P.S. Not a promotion. Just saw a frustrated developer with the same problem I had, so thought I’d share.
Emacs or (Neo)vim.
My advice is to get over it because AI is here to stay. I’m serious. I had your attitude a year ago and it cost me a job.
Just go with VSCodium... or Vim.
neovim
Are you interested in Nvim? If so, you can set it up exactly how you like it without AI. On mobile I use Textastic a lot, recently tried Combine, or a VPS server through shellfish. Otherwise, I do think you can use Zed without AI
I like Zed, yes it has AI but one setting to disable all AI stuff and you have nice and simple editor.
I mean, vs codium and zed (with disabled ai, login and telemetry features)
You'll be covered in dust soon.
I am surprised no one suggested Ms Word yet. But seriously I just got to know Lapce. It is fast but still in development (suffer random crashes but rarely for me). —- I also have had enough from the pos electron based resource hungry garbages and the constant AI push. Sometimes I just want to open a big file fast without an agentic form popping into my face to tell me there is a new agent to try which does not work with the same ruleset that the previous version accepted.
I use KATE. Very simple, color codes my shit and doesn't get in my way.
Notepad++