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Smallest model (& tips) for intelligent computer use via Hermes?

Hello, I have a friend who's using various local LLM's like qwen3.6 27B, 35b-a3b, North Mini Code, and qwen2.5-vl-7b (just for vision). They have a use case where they're trying to have an LLM drive an actual machine via hermes' computer_use tool and…

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Hello, I have a friend who's using various local LLM's like qwen3.6 27B, 35b-a3b, North Mini Code, and qwen2.5-vl-7b (just for vision). They have a use case where they're trying to have an LLM drive an actual machine via hermes' computer_use tool and cua_driver to click through and navigate a complex web app that has many different pages / slides on it, and figure out what it needs to do to advance to the next screen (there can be many many possible page configurations, but essentially there's a 'click this, then click next, or drag this here, and click next, or click this , wait, click next' type thing). The issue they're having is that often the model seems to make mistakes with figuring out how to click on various things, like the 'page navigation' steps at the bottom of the screen (clicking page 2, 3,4 ,5, 'next'), clicking on some circle elements on the screen, etc etc. They've had similar issues and performance whether using a small model for vision, like qwen2.5-vl-7b, which they like because it's local and they don't have to spend on api, because they have a limited budget, but also with using an api model like mimo 2.5, they haven't got much better performance out of that. I'm trying to research, if anybody knows a small model that would function better with driving a real machine with mouse/keyboard input via hermes' computer_use function. Or if they have any tips for the same with existing models we may have tried.

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u/bahwi

I haven't tried it but I think Microsoft released a cua model recently that was fine tuned on qwen

u/NotARedditUser3OP

THANK YOU! Will absolutely look into these! https://github.com/microsoft/fara is the link I found for this

u/Mkengine

Also look at their suite for fara: https://github.com/microsoft/magentic-ui

u/ZeroTwoMod

Before swapping models, I would see whether you can give the agent a more reliable state signal. If the app exposes DOM or accessibility data, feed that in and validate each click against the expected screen change; visual clicking alone is brittle around small navigation controls. A small fixed set of representative screens will tell you whether the issue is grounding or the model.

u/mr_Owner

Try ornith 1.0 35b a3b, work great with hermes so far for me no issues with apex i mini quant and mtp.

u/o0genesis0o

Maybe try to the open computer by anythingllm team: https://github.com/Mintplex-Labs/anything-llm/blob/master/open-computer/README.md They showed a gemma 12B managed to get things done because they don't use vision but more text and DOM tree approach. Hermes should be able to make some sorts of bridge to this open computer thing.