What would be better for long term 8-10 years?
So I was trying to put a build together for around 2000-2200 dollars after my old laptop died and I noticed that I have 2 main cpu and gpu combos that I can manage to fit in this budget for basically the same price. The first one is the 7800x3d + 9070 xt The…
So I was trying to put a build together for around 2000-2200 dollars after my old laptop died and I noticed that I have 2 main cpu and gpu combos that I can manage to fit in this budget for basically the same price. The first one is the 7800x3d + 9070 xt The second one is the 9600x + 5070ti Is going the full amd build worth it? I've heard that the 7800x3d is a really good choice where you get almost top tier performance and it can hang with stuff like 5090s today so I'm assuming it'll be just fine with other GPUs in the future I'll be using it mostly for gaming playing stuff like forza horizon 6, war thunder and stuff like helldivers and space Marine if I can run them again (both stopped working on my laptop a while ago before it died helldivers was unplayable with massive lag spikes and space Marine was at around 20 fps). I do not like upgrading to be completely honest I used my laptop until it died yesterday so I'll likely use either combo for as long as it works, and maybe resell the gpu in the future for an upgrade but I don't plan on changing anything else really Also does anyone know how many years of game ready driver support the 9070xt will get compared to the 5070ti? I saw the little google ai summary say 5-6 years in total but I don't trust that thing. But anyways what would you guys pick if you were in my situation and thinking of the performance right now and future stuff like resale value for just the gpu.
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7800X3D+9070XT
Had the ram prices not gone insane id love to go with the 7800x3d and 5070ti too but unfortunately my laptop died a bit to late for cheap ram.... Any idea which brand usually has a better resale value? Is nvidia better than amd in this situation? This is a minor thing for me as I won't be seling either gpu any time soon but I don't know much about this topic
Hm I see so while nvidia cards usually still get day 1 driver updates radeon cards take longer? Is it a really long wait or like 1 week after the game is out? I'm leaning towards the 7800x3d too tbh it does feel like it'll be way better than the 9600x long term, and it does look like the 9070xt is almost equal with the 5070ti in raw performance for most games I play today. Stability is probably going to be something I end up appreciating a lot because of my habit of just using my things for as long as possible
Do you mean AMD vs Nvidia or the specific AIC brands like Asus or MSI? Resell value has to do more with specific model than the gpu brand (ie: 4090 incredible resell value, more than when it was brand new). If i were to guess...maybe nvidia since it the more well recognized of the two, but i wouldn't put to much into this.
No. AMD cards also get game optimized drivers on launch, that support just does not extend as many years. "Optimized" being the keyword here. In 5 years an RX 9070 XT will still run brand new games, AMD just focuses effort on newer models first.
I mean to be honest if the ram and SSD prices werent so high i probably would have been able to get this build for around 1600 max 8 months ago but a single stick of 16gig being 250 and a 1 tb SSD being 170-190 kinda ruins it
Yeah I targeted 1500 to adjust for rampocalypse, tariffs, and general inflation
Oh right i completely forgot that the 5070ti has a 12v high power connector in my mind that one was always reserved for the 80 and 90 class cards I think I'll go with the 9070xt having that melt on the 5070ti would be disastrous for me
There are some 9070 XT models that use the 12VHWPR like the sapphire.
I would get the 7800X3D + 9070 XT. Big increase in CPU performance, tiny sacrifice of GPU performance. Nvidia is better about long term driver support than AMD. For example, RTX 2000 cards are nearing 8 years of full driver support, RX 5000 went maintenance mode end of 2025 aka 6 years of support. Just to be clear, the older AMD cards still get driver updates, just not priority/day 1 game optimizations.
How much ram are you planning on putting in this system?
Eh. While i do expect RDNA 4's support to be good going forward, Radeon's track record for driver support has been spotty these past few generations. They keep shooting themselves in the foot. Nvidia's on the other hand, has been rock solid. But it's difficult to predict the future. If possible, i'd go 7800x3d+5070ti. If not, option 1 is probably better.
In terms of performance today, 7800x3d + 9070 xt. In terms of the future, it's more a nuanced discussion. Compared to NIVIDA's history, It's no guarantee that future technologies like improvements in FSR upscaling will be available to the 9070 XT. Like pulling teeth, the community's persist efforts only recently convinced AMD to provide 7000 series GPUs access to FSR 4, the most current version of FSR. 6000 series GPUs still don't have official FSR 4 support. In terms of resale value, NVIDIA GPUs are the majority and have a long history on the second hand market, making it much easier to get both offers and better deals.
That's a stretch. 10 years ago a $1500 build would have probably had a 6700k and 1080 for context.
I feel like a broken record because I keep making the same comment under many people's posts but I always lean towards 9070xt over 5070ti simply because, when it comes to longevity, the 9070xt can be had with regular 8 pin pcie power cables while all 5070ti's use 12v2x6. Admittedly, the 5070ti/9070xt draw little enough power that 12v2x6 problems are much less likely than on something like a 5090, but it is still not unheard of. Ive presently got two rigs running 9070xt; one is the asus prime model with 8pin pcie and the other is sapphire nitro+ with 12v2x6. I never feel any anxiety when im watching a TV show or something and fall asleep with the 8pin pcie card; meanwhile, a little part of me panics everytime I turn on the 12v2x6 card, even though I run it with both a tg wireview pro 2 and a corsair thermal protect cable... The peace of mind I get from the 8pin pcie is invaluable and I wouldn't trade it for the world. Even if someone offered me a 5080 or 5090 in exchange for the card, I would only do it insofar as I knew I could then sell it to buy another 9070xt 8pin model and keep the extra cash as a bonus. I truly believe we will see support for cards that use 12v2x6 die out over the next few years as we transition to a better and more stable technology that's less prone to burning down people's rigs. Everytime a card maker produces a 12v2x6 card, they open themselves up to a little bit of risk and liability, especially with the possibility of future class action suits. All it will take is one person's house burning or child being injured in a region with a sympathetic judiciary for the whole proverbial house of cards to come tumbling down. Manufacturers know this and I promise you they are already looking for alternatives. Mark my words, once we find a better technology, card makers will leave the 12v2x6 in the rearview and people will look back and say "remember when they used to make gpu's with THAT THING?!? What were people thinking? How did anyone ever think that was acceptable? People back then used to be SO QUAINT!"