Is an AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D overkill?
I've decided to finally take the plunge and get a real gaming PC for the first time in a decade after scraping by with a ThinkPad T580 and Steam Deck. Truth be told, modded Skyrim is probably the most intense gaming I'll be doing, but I'm hoping to have…
I've decided to finally take the plunge and get a real gaming PC for the first time in a decade after scraping by with a ThinkPad T580 and Steam Deck. Truth be told, modded Skyrim is probably the most intense gaming I'll be doing, but I'm hoping to have something that'll run Elder Scrolls 6 when it comes out in 2032. I have a good chunk of cash in savings, and the build I'm looking at is around $2400 with assembly and accident protection (Over a month's wages for me, and I only work 10 months), but I'm wondering if maybe I can get that down a bit. The GPU I have picked out is MSI - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti VENTUS 2X BLACK PLUS Overclocked Dual Fan 16GB GDDR7 PCIe 5.0 if that helps. I'm a former tech guy so don't feel like you need to dumb your explanations down too much for my sake. Thank you! UPDATE: Thank you all for the advice! I'm currently looking at changing to a 7800X3D CPU and a 9070XT GPU, I brought this all to a local PC shop and they told me they'd be able to do it for a good bit cheaper than MicroCenter with those specs and'll give me a few different options. You've saved my ass.
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For a 5060 Ti? Yep. A 7800X3D would make more sense. Heck you could probably get away with a 7600X3D/7500X3D.
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You don’t need that CPU with that GPU bro Upgrade your GPU and downgrade the CPU. You don’t want a CPU that’s a beast but your GPU isn’t strong enough for it to matter I mean doesn’t that GPU only have 8 VRAM? You need more.
How easy is it to wreak a part? I have some nerve issues in my hands so the fear of having a twitch/spasm break an expensive part is what's holding me back.
If only 5090 FE was $1999.99, the people in that alternate timeline are having a blast
It’s not that easy to break unless you are rocking the GPU up and and inside its PCIE slot like a strong man competition or touching the glass case with metal parts. I just built a PC for a customer using a 5060ti, 9600X, 16 GB of RAM and with all other parts combined I charged him 1200. You can do way better for $2400
Why? It's not like the 5060ti will pull 4K res. So a 9800X3D will probably squeeze every FPS it can in competitive games, specially in 1080p. PS: Nevermind just read he plays modded skyrim, lmao...
That 575W TDP is kinda scary tho. It's like having a compact microwave on the entire time you play
I would spend more on your GPU and less on your CPU.
5090 is overkill just for gaming 5080 is the sweet spot.
A 9800X3D is 10% better than the 7800X3D. If you’re not running a 4090/5080/5090 or 1080p, they’re both overkill.
2400$ is enough for 5080 and 9800x3d. 5060Ti is entry level GPU and in long run won't payoff for gaming.
Don't buy systems for games that don't exist yet. Depends on what you mean by overkill. You can get away with less CPU, but you may feel it 4-6 years from now at GPU upgrade time. Don't spend money you don't need to, would rather see you specced with a B850/7800X3D and a 5070 at the moment. If anything, choose 800 over 600 series for better RAM compatibility and significantly better PCIe 5.0 support
Eight cores, 3D-VCache, and really good AVX instruction support make the 9800X3D a good platform investment. It's likely to be a viable gaming CPU part for a long, long time as it's unlikely the PS6/Helix will come close to its performance in gaming. It's worth it if you're investing in one desktop to be a long term platform.
Yeah, just get a 7500/7600X3D
Post the whole build. $2,400 and only a 5060 Ti seems off.
Get a 9070XT instead- it shouldn't be too far off the price. It's fine to still get the 9800X3D (a 7800X3D is also a good alternative here on price cutting without losing too much,) either will let you have that extra grunt and you don't need to be incredibly fussy with memory timings, but there's not really a good reason to drop down CPUs to afford a stronger NVIDIA card, especially when you then lose CPU performance to NVIDIA driver overhead. It's not overkill- too many people underspec their CPUs, often to afford a stronger NVIDIA card that has a CPU performance penalty on top.
Better go like 7800x3d and 9070xt.
You don't mention monitor resolution & refresh Anyhow, 5060ti is a 1080/120hz -1440/75hz being generous. Don't need a 9800x3D to pair it at all
I'd get a 7800x3d and a 9070xt - way better value/balance and overall performance.
Game isn't even out. No one will know. But it's one of the fastest cpu for gaming atm. You could go cheaper cpu and faster GPU
spend on more in the gpu since you can get away with x3d variant like 7800x3d
Do it yourself or found someone's who can built it cheaper. For this price you can casually get a 9070xt
That's a very unbalanced combination of CPU and GPU. You've got a fairly high end, if not one of the top end CPUs with a lower tier GPU. When your CPU and GPU are this dramatically mismatched you'll see major bottlenecks between them. Essentially, if the CPU is dramatically stronger than the GPU, it'll send information to the GPU at a faster rate than the GPU can handle, effectively making the GPU work harder. This will cause the GPU to heat up faster and potentially lower performance even more. So now you have a GPU who's fans are spinning a full speed all the time, and on top of that you're losing frames. In the other direction, if your GPU is significantly more powerful than your CPU, then the GPU will be requesting information at rate higher than the CPU can handle, causing the CPU to work too hard, raising temps and again slowing down performance. Your price tag is concerning to me too. For that kind of money, you should be able to afford a much better GPU than a 5060 in your build, at least a 5070ti, maybe even a 5080. Those two GPUs would be much better fits with a 7800x3d than a 5060.
9800X3D runs great thermals if you're going SSF. Every bit helps.