First car 27F. What subcompact crossover hybrid should I buy? Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid SE vs Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid Limited vs Kia Niro HEV
Priorities: Safety is #1. I am an anxious grandma driver. I want all the safety bells and whistles like the lane assist, automatic breaking, good backup camera. Honestly even the eyesight assist would be cool but that is not a dealbreaker. I also drive my…
Priorities: Safety is #1. I am an anxious grandma driver. I want all the safety bells and whistles like the lane assist, automatic breaking, good backup camera. Honestly even the eyesight assist would be cool but that is not a dealbreaker. I also drive my younger sibling to healthcare appointments who is disabled and I want to feel safe driving her around in the city/freeways. Hybrid with a good MPG: I drive a lot for work and on my days off in both the city/suburbs so gas milage is important. I also hate filling up my own gas. It’s a waste of time and an annoying errand that I want to do as little as I possible can. Easy to park. I don’t need a compact SUV like a Rav4 or a Forester because I am single, not planning on having children, I have no pets, and I rarely have more than 1 other person in my car (usually my little sister). Plus the sub-compacts usually have better gas milage. I am also open/considering hatchback sedans like a prius, corolla cross hatchback HEV, or Honda Civic hatchback HEV, but I like the feel of being higher up in the subcompact crossovers compared to the sedans. I’m 5’9” with a super long torso and most of my family members are 5’10” + so I am used to driving taller cars, and that’s what I feel the most comfortable with. AWD is not super important for where I live (Portland, OR) because the weather is mild, so I’m okay with FWD. I have no reason to drive during the few days a year when it’s icy because I work for a school district that shuts down at the sight of a single snowflake. Hatchback for larger storage capacity for when I camp/bike/hike etc. Ground clearance is not that important because I usually do outdoorsy things where you can park on paved roads (like glamping). Budget: I’m putting 12k down. I’m open to buying used if it makes sense financially. My credit score is 750 and my local credit union offered me 4.99% for 60 months. I would like to not spend more than $400/month for a car payment. I’m also not in a rush, as I currently drive a beater car that runs great. Looking to buy a car by next summer 2027. Thanks in advanced for any tips/advice!!!
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I am going to post this for the benefit of you and others. Some will apply to you, some won't. Pay special attention to No. 11. Monthly payment is the worst way to look at a car purchase. As soon as you do that, you have given control to the dealership and will probably be taken to the cleaners. The only number that you should be concerned with is the final, out-the-door price. Once that is firmly established, then it's time to move on to trade ins and financing. I am the son of a career car salesman. Here's some of what he taught me. Just because you can afford the car payments doesn't mean that you can afford the car. Any salesperson can give you a "low monthly payment" by stretching out the loan term to a ridiculous length and then jacking up the interest rate. This costs you money. The less money you put down and the longer the loan term, the longer you will be upside-down on the loan, meaning that you owe more on the car than it is worth. (Lenders sometimes use the terms "under water" and "negative equity", which mean the same thing.) This is a very unwise financial situation to be in. The dealership is a hothouse atmosphere with loads of pressure and dealerships take advantage of that at every opportunity. It's easy to get sidetracked and to lose your objectivity. Then, you wind up paying too much for a car you cannot afford. As hard a pill as this is to swallow, you need to fully understand this: If you cannot put down at least 20 percent (and more if possible) and you cannot pay the loan off in 36 months, you cannot afford the car, no matter how low the payment is. The salesperson is not your friend. Everything they do is designed to separate you from as much of your money as possible. Dealerships will add on ridiculous items like LoJack, extended warranties, paint and fabric protection, and whatever else they can think of to pad their profits. None of these items will help the customer. Refuse to pay for them. If they won't remove them, walk away from the deal. Walking away is the biggest power you have. Buying a car is usually the second-biggest purchase you'll make. It's a huge financial commitment and needs to be looked at in a cold-eyed, rational way. Before you ever set foot in the dealership, go to your bank or, better yet, your credit union, and see what terms they will give you. If you don't have a relationship with a credit union, this is the perfect time to start one. They may be able to beat the rates you get from the dealer. You'll need to purchase full coverage insurance for the duration of the loan. Make sure you know what that costs before you buy the car. Reddit is full of posts from people moaning that they want to get rid of their car for one reason or another, but they can't because they owe $17,000 on it and it's only worth $10,500. These are the same people who bought a car with little or nothing down and a loan term of 4-8 years. Don't be one of those people. We have owned five Toyota hybrids since 2007 and they have been driven about 500,000 combined miles. Problems have been few, minor and have not involved the hybrid systems. Nobody does hybrids better than Toyota. That said, how much do you drive in a year? Mostly city or mostly highway? (Hybrids get better mileage in the city and get their best mileage in stop-and-go traffic.) What are gas prices like where you are? You can do the math to determine how long it will take to get back the hybrid premium. Or you can decide, as we have, that you just plain like the hybrid better.
This information is SO helpful. Thank you! I drive at least 13k miles a year….maybe a few k more than that over the next 5 or so years. Mostly city, stop and go, heavy traffic areas. I feel like I live in my car somedays because I drive around to multiple schools a day for my job. Gas prices in Portland right now are bad….$4.46/gal at Costco right now.
so yes I think toyota might be in my best interest, however, I am going to think about what you said in #4, as I would rather wait until I feel ready to pay a car off in 36 months vs taking a 48 or 60 month loan!