Are cheap, AWD, V6 sedans not available anymore?
I'm on the hunt to try and replace my 06 Honda Accord ex and was going to go for another V6 sedan, but wanted to add on the AWD since I'm in a snowy area. Problem is that $40k is my cap and pretty much everything released recently is $50k+ for a v6. Do you…
I'm on the hunt to try and replace my 06 Honda Accord ex and was going to go for another V6 sedan, but wanted to add on the AWD since I'm in a snowy area. Problem is that $40k is my cap and pretty much everything released recently is $50k+ for a v6. Do you all know of any decent options? Side note: Am I dumb for trying to avoid a V4 turbo? The power is nice and feels similar to a V6, but I feel like they always end up needing to be replaced. If I am dumb for this, would you recommend any V4 turbos with awd?
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that's not a bad call, the previous gen charger with the pentastar is actually pretty reliable for what it is. the awd system is solid in snow too, used to see tons of them around here in the winter months. just keep an eye on the rocker panels if you're in a salt state, they like to rot out before anything major fails mechanically
And wasn't Camry XSE, back when they were V6, cost more than $40k? Non-inflation adjusted no less.
Yea I think my budget is a bit too low for what my ideal. I saw some TLXs with 30k miles within the budget but those were typically lower spec and on the high end of the budget. For that price, i think id rather just go for one of the newer integras and take the hit to performance. Will check out your suggestions on the i4s. Thank you for the help and heads up! I've very quickly noticed i was wrong from all others that are a bit more unfriendly lol
There are no V4 car engines. (There have been, in the past - a very few. You will probably never see one.) The 4 cylinders are not in a "v" shape. They are "i4" engines because they are "inline."(*) The current i4 turbos are about as powerful as the previous normally-aspirated V6s, but they are faster because the turbo can be managed electronically to help the engine make make more power over more of its rev range, and they get substantially better fuel economy and have lower emissions. The replacement for your 20-year-old Accord is a current-generation Civic. It is approximately the same size as your Accord (it is within an inch or so in every dimension) and it is faster and more efficient. The hybrid civic is 200 hp (it is not a turbo though, it's just a normally-aspirated i4 engine with a battery-powered electric motor) and it will beat your Accord in a drag race while getting 45 mpg highway, 50 mpg city. (*)It's okay to not know how many cylinders there are in the car you're looking at, or what shape they are in. A straight-six? vee-six? inline-four? vee-eight? Doesn't matter. Just drive everything in your price range, and buy what you like best without trying to imagine what all the stuff is under the hood.
Yea ive always swapped to good winter tires at the start of winter. The accord handles well once it starts moving, but trying to get it moving has proven difficult a few times, so was hopping awd would fix that. Thank you for the camry shout
Thank you for the actual education on difference and what the power is like. I probably just need to get out and actually test drive something to get a feel for whats similar. Someone else mentioned that the turbo maybe be included in the powertrain warranty, so if that's true i dont have much concern anymore as long as the warranty is solid
Love the explanation - thank you. I feel like the consensus is that i need to give the 2.0t i4 a go and get over the no turbo v6
Alot of the fuel consumptions I've seen have come out to about the same, which is kinda shocking.
What kinda horses are you looking for, here? V6's are definitely being replaced with turbo 4's, in general. But there are some quite adequate larger 4 cylinders out there now. My 25 Sonata has 190 HP and a little more in torque, SE/SEL/Sport trims have AWD available. Then there's Kia K5 GT-line, which has same powetrain but a sportier drive to it. I realize Korean has a bad rap during the teens, but the last 5 years, they've changed out their drivetrains and turned it around so you aren't buying a lit fused bomb. Powertrain warranty includes the turbo for 100k, and all of those options should be within the $40K area or under, in some cases, 10K under for the Sonata SE. I went with the Sonata SEL-C because it felt adequately powered, was NA, and 8 speed transmission, as well as liberally equipped with tech I'd appreciate having. Unfortunately the 26 sport feels a bit under featured by comparison, but has AWD capable whereas mine was not. Turbos obviously add parts and failure risk, but from my recent reddit experiences, it's what the turbo is doing to the engine that's more concerning. IF I had gone turbo in any brand/model, I'd be committing to 3-4k oil changes and cutting what the manual says for most scheduled MTC in half.
And the Chrysler 300. You can get them nicely equipped for under $40k on the used market right now. 3.6 is a good motor if taken care of. Keep an eye on the oil cooler housing and change the oil on time.
Test drive a new 2026 Toyota Camry AWD , 230+ hp without turbo, combined injection, and instant electric torque - one of the most reliable / durable cars on the market. "LE" trim is the best value for money (and offers the best acceleration IRL, the best ride comfort and the best fuel economy among all trims) , ~$32k new for the AWD version. edit. You always need premium brand WINTER TIRES, AWD does NOT replace winter ties, AWD imrpoves acceleration on a slippery surface but nothing else, it does NOT improve safety. Now matter how many people say otherwise, what people say has zero influence on physics and reality.
Sidie note it's an inline 4 turbo. V4 do exist but usually find em on bikes. :) And if you're talking about modern vehicles, engine classes roughly compare like this: NA 1.8-2.5l Inline 4cyl class equivalent is the 1.0t-15t Inline 3/Inline class. NA 3.0 to 4.0 V6 class equivalent is the 2.0t-2.5t inline 4 class NA V8/V10 class engines from 4.0L up to 5.7L equivalent is the V6 3.0t to 3.5t class. As for avoiding cars with turbos, that's a black and white way to approach a complex topic. Not all turbocharged engines are bad, they are less tolerant of neglected maintenance, but some are reliable, some are not and have design flaws. But that was true of older cars as well. It's worth considering. Keep in mind, they real world fuel economy isn't meaningfully different power for power. Gotta burn 300hp worth of gas to make 300hp. Side note, the weight savings of the 2.0t on a big FWD sedan really improve the weight distribution and handling. You can also buy a used 2010s V6
Generally V6’s have been replaced by I4 turbos for economy vehicles because you can more or less get the same amount of power/speed with lower emissions and fuel consumption
So you want a V6 and AWD and brand new and to not spend over $40k? Best of luck. The Lexus IS still offers what you're after, but not new at that price point.
Probably find a low mileage AWD V6 Dodge Charger for a decent price, previous gen, not the current one
The V6s were mostly replaced in favor of turbo I4 motors. Stop shopping so new if you want a V6 and you'll find decent options.
2018 or 2019 Subaru Legacy
Dodge Charger/Chrysler 300 fits the bill perfectly, a V6 Camry would too but would cost a bit more upfront
Plenty of AWD I4 2.0Ts available in your price point - Audi A4 45, A5 Sportback 45, A6 45/55; BMW 330i/430; VW Arteon. V6/I6 + AWD is less common, but Audi/BMW/MB offer that. Turbocharged engines aren’t inherently bad either.
Looks like you can find some low mileage Acura TLX Type S for under 40K, if you want to stay with the Honda brand
Acura Tlx?
If I were buying a sedan today, I’d be starting with the hybrid accord, the camry, and the hybrid sonata. None are turbo charged, all use inline 4’s, and all will give you pleasant and immediate low and torque as well as passing authority. Those should all be available on budget also.
years ago I had a V6 328i and then I replaced with the newer turbo I4 328i, and the 4 cylinder was better.
Dodge Charger
Acura TL & TLX have AWD options, Lexus GS & IS, Infiniti G & Q, Audi sedans with the 3.0t trim(supercharged version is GOATed), Cadillac CTS, Ford Fusion Sport 2.7tt, etc. Dozens of options out there, just have to look. But if you're specifically wanting "new", you're in the wrong budget bracket unfortunately. That said, most of all the ones I listed have i4 turbo AWD options as well. (Also, i4 not v4; there are those that will scold and correct you instead of providing feedback).