Having Trouble Pulling the Trigger On My Build List
Current build is going to cost about $2500 (USD) after taxes. I'm worried about spending too much for what I'm getting but everyone is saying prices are only going to get worse. Anyway here is the build along with some notes on my thinking prosses. Focus of…
Current build is going to cost about $2500 (USD) after taxes. I'm worried about spending too much for what I'm getting but everyone is saying prices are only going to get worse. Anyway here is the build along with some notes on my thinking prosses. Focus of the build is a mid tear gaming pc that can handle some local AI (LLM, images, and video) with the option to upgrade to a 24gb or 34gb VRAM card. Parts will likely be purchased from local Micro Center. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=3d6c5dab-eae8-4ee2-b572-bfd935732061 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZW3vZQ ( they didn't have the PSU I was looking for in the database so I put in a place holder) AMD Ryzen 9 9950X ASUS B850 Creator ProArt WiFi 32GB G.Skill Flare X5 DDR5-6000 CL36 (2 x 16GB) Note: This is a bundle from Micro Center for $899.99. I originally was thinking of getting a less expensive CPU and maybe a CL28 RAM kit. This is one of my sticking points. Is memory timing going to make a big difference? Should I wait and see if MC comes out with some new deals? MSI NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti VENTUS 2X BLACK PLUS 16GB GDDR7 Note: Cheap 16GB of VRAM. I'm thinking of getting a 16GB card, then keeping an eye our for a used 3090 or 4090 to bump up the VRAM for AI if necessary. Anyone have suggestions for were to buy used GPUs? 2TB Samsung 990 PRO NVMe M.2 SSD Note: 2TB to store AI models and games and dedicated DRAM is nice Fractal Design Epoch Mid-Tower Note: Solid side, no glass, no lights (I'm too old, all those pretty lights look cool but give me a headache) Seasonic CORE GX-1000 1000W ATX 3.1 Note: Overpowered to run quiet at low loads and to support a higher VRAM card in the future. Noctua NH-D15S Note: This is a bit of a splurge, I could save some money here and go with a comparable Thermalright. Additional Note: It's been over a decade since I've built anything like this from scratch. I used AI (Gemini) to compare different parts and stuff. It will help to get some human eyes on this to make sure I didn't completely miss something.
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You should prioritise the GPU over the CPU for AI work like that. Also, get the bundle only from Microcenter, everything else is usually worse price there. PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8P42rG CPU: Intel Core Ultra 7 270K Plus 3.7 GHz 24-Core Processor ($699.99) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Frozen Prism ARGB 70.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($53.90 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Gigabyte Z890 EAGLE WIFI7 PLUS ATX LGA1851 Motherboard ($0.00) Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($0.00) Storage: Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($349.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB Video Card ($1099.00) Case: Fractal Design Epoch ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: Montech CENTURY II 1050 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.90 @ Amazon) Total: $2402.77 What's the tax in your state? This build is around $2500 post tax and by not overspending on parts that don't actually effect performance you actually get a 3090, a 24GB vram card which is crazily better for ai. You use a $699 microcenter bundle ( which you can also get a 9700X bundle if you prefer AMD, but it will be worse multicore for same price), get a very similar performing ssd. You also get a very high quality PSU of similar caliber, and a fine motherboard. To be honest, you should always be prioritising the real performance. Which is why a 270K Plus and 3090 will be MILES better than a 9950X and 5060 Ti 16GB for AI anyday. The 3090 can be found for around $1100 with a tad bit of searching.
Thanks for this input, it's really helpful. I agree on prioritising GPU over the CPU. You're right, I should go for the cheaper CPU. I don't know enough to compare the amd over the intel so I'll have to look into that. I think I fell for the trap of spending "just a little bit more" for the nicer sounding bundle and I wanted the low profile blackout RAM over the rgb RAM. I can deal with the rgb RAM or figure something else out. Good catch on the WD SSD. It looks like it might be even cheaper on newegg and I might get micro center to price match. For the power supply, I'm shy of getting a low quality PSU and don't know alot about the current manufactures. I'd like something that I can rely on and should stay relatively quiet. Looks like I need to do some more research. AIO cooler, have they gotten significantly better? For the price would I get better performance and lower noise from a simple duel tower air cooler?
You can always turn the RGB off on the memory, however yeah the turned off translucent lights would be visible. There're two useful tools for comparing PSUs. One is the PSU Tier List, and the other is Cybenetics, both well-known in the community. According to both, the Montech Century II 1050W is basically on par (A tier), with Cybenetics actually rating the Century II with a higher efficiency (Gold vs. Platinum). Yes, SeaSonic makes very high-quality ones, but all brands are capable of that. The reason I picked an AIO and not a dual-tower is because for sustained heavy workloads, they're better for cooling the higher end chips like the 270K Plus and 9950X. They're also way cheaper than they were before. Here's a video by Gamers Nexus where the Noctua G15 D2 arguably the best air cooler on the market still loses to water coolers. They last forever though, but something like the Thermalright Frozen Prism that performs better is more than half the price, meaning you can buy multiple for the price of 1 Noctua G15 D2.